GS850G start-up, running and power issues.

[Dragon Breath]

This is why you guys need to stop telling every new guy to adjust his valves.

I can tell that you are relatively new here. Standard practice is to clean the carbs, adjust the valves and clean/check the electrical connections.

Then, once the engine is running properly, check the suspension, tyres and brakes.

THEN you finally get a chance to ride your 'new' bike.

If someone does not know how to do something, he should ask. If not verbally, at least do some searching via Google or other search methods, but there is a LOT of information on how to work on these bikes, especially on this site. A link to BassCliff's site (our library) is usually helpful, too.

I have noticed some of your posts lately, too, and find too much information in them that is either useless or just plain wrong.

 

[DohcBikes]

Theres no need to even pull the valve cover if compression is good.

Rode and tuned my first gs a long long time ago. This site isnt the final word.

 

[Datsa Noydb]

What was the compression on each cylinder?

Say what? You didnt even ask?

Did you know that roughly 99% of inexperienced people will get incorrect clearance readings?

How many miles does it have? Did anyone ask? Pardon if i missed it.

No real mechanic makes suggestions without asking the right questions.

Well, since very few of us are REAL mechanics, we might tend to forget to ask redundant questions.

Compression numbers might make some people feel good, but I have worked on many "new" bikes over the last 20 years or so and have never gotten a compression reading on any of them. The only compression gauge I have will not work on a 4-cyinder bike engine, so I don't even bother with it.

As to how many miles on his bike? NONE. That's right, NONE.
Look in his signature, he got the bike with just over 72,000 KILOMETERS.

As to those 99% of inexperienced people getting incorrect readings: many of them will post there findings here, because they might have seen the suggestion to adjust their valves. When we ask how they did the procedure, we tend to then educate them, just in case they did not bother to read the service manual first.

That is much better than simply not telling them to do the work.

 

[Datsa Noydb]

Theres no need to even pull the valve cover if compression is good.

I will thank you to stay away from my bikes, then. The valves can still be closing and give good compression numbers, but be out of spec for clearance. Run them tight for too long, you will be burning valves, but you won't know unless you PULL THE VALVE COVER and check the clearances.

 

[DohcBikes]

^False....

 

[Steve]

Which part?

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[Grimly]

This is why you guys need to stop telling every new guy to adjust his valves.

Idiot troll.
In fact, you're going in my Bozo Bin. Enjoy the company in there.

 

[roeme]

Back to the issue at hand, he's got buggered cam's now?

 

[Guest]

Thorsghost 13. I am just up or down the road from you in Ottawa. Rebuilt an 81 -850 before joining this site. Bike had not run for 20 some years. I do have some extra parts from some boxes of parts that I bought while rebuilding mine. You are welcome to come and scrounge for anything you need for yours. I also have a sonic cleaner and you are welcome to come over and spend a few hours going through the carbs. One thing to say here about the money invested. Over time you will find out that the money invested is way down the list. What you will gain through the experience of wrenching on your bike is way beyond monetary value.While working on mine, I constantly marveled at the precise engineering involved in making these machines. You have come to the right place for advise. Everything I needed to know about putting it all together I found here or on Basscliffs site.

 

[DohcBikes]

Yes the advice here lead you to pulling every shim in your engine. Very pertinent and concise.

 

[DohcBikes]

I can tell that you are relatively new here.

Thats an interesting comment coming from you. Ive been here longer and have a couple hundred more posts than you, so please do tell me more.

Actually ive been reading this site for almost ten years now and im really tired of seeing arbitrary and unnecessary suggestions. Since im an actual motorcycle mechanic, ive earned my right to give my opinion after witnessing first hand the mistakes that nonmechanics regularly make. Telling every new guy to get into his motor without knowing anything about him OR the engine is ignorant. Hard proof right here.

 

[jsandidge]

. Since im an actual motorcycle mechanic, ive earned my right to give my opinion after witnessing first hand the mistakes that nonmechanics regularly make.

Please continue giving us your opinions. It would be nice if you could do it without aggravating people though.

 

[jsandidge]

I can't help it if my opinion aggravates people.

It's not your opinion that aggravates people. It's your attitude and lack of people skills.

 

[roeme]

I can't help it if my opinion aggravates people.

It's not your opinion that aggravates people. It's your attitude and lack of people skills.

 

[storm 64]

Idiot troll.
In fact, you're going in my Bozo Bin. Enjoy the company in there.

The Bozo Bin? Not the Bozo Bin, I don't want him in there with me! Put him in the Young kid that works in a motorcycle shop, making a little over minimum wage, thinking he knows everything, riding on his older brothers coattails bin...

 

[DohcBikes]

No its my opinions. They dont exactly match the blowhards on here so it aggravates them. Its quite obvious.

Im 36, have my own business, and have no older brothers. My younger brother was introduced by me to the industry.

Next.

 

[steve murdoch]

Good on ya, Phred.

Thorsghost 13. I am just up or down the road from you in Ottawa. Rebuilt an 81 -850 before joining this site. Bike had not run for 20 some years. I do have some extra parts from some boxes of parts that I bought while rebuilding mine. You are welcome to come and scrounge for anything you need for yours. I also have a sonic cleaner and you are welcome to come over and spend a few hours going through the carbs. One thing to say here about the money invested. Over time you will find out that the money invested is way down the list. What you will gain through the experience of wrenching on your bike is way beyond monetary value.While working on mine, I constantly marveled at the precise engineering involved in making these machines. You have come to the right place for advise. Everything I needed to know about putting it all together I found here or on Basscliffs site.

 

[jsandidge]

No its my opinions. They dont exactly match the blowhards on here so it aggravates them. Its quite obvious.

I like to hear different opinions, whether they match others or not. That helps people draw their own conclusions. I am far from a blowhead, and your opinions have never aggravated me. Your tone sure has though. What is obvious to me is that you either don't realize this, or you are purposely trying to aggravate people. I think it is the latter.

 

[DohcBikes]

So let me get this right.

You are telling me to change my tone?

Really?

Fall in line, speak as we desire you to speak, or else!

Individual personalities are hereby disallowed!

Heil!

Good lord.

I inject my opinion, its not the same as the vocal people here, i get jumped for it. Thats how its gone here so far. If you dont like me, ignore me.

 

[jsandidge]

So let me get this right.

You are telling me to change my tone?

Now you finally understand.