You do and I'll haunt you to the ends of the earth.Bugger it, I am just going to rattle can the thing flat black and call it done.
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Bugger it, I am just going to rattle can the thing flat black and call it done.
Don't do that.
Stick with the original plan it'll be soo much better and really it will please you every time you look at it.
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Arrrhhhhh, thanks Dale, so much for the greatest laid plans of mice and men
Many many thanks for the offer Dale, but it really is not practical right now, as I said, it is not just the gun, it is the applicator behind the gun, and I am really happy with the product and the way it goes down is really great, so a top of the range gun ain't going to help me, anyway, i would need a compressor, and a booth etc etc.....
Bugger it, I am just going to rattle can the thing flat black and call it done.
Stan, I think you would have half the GSR after your blood if a can of flat black even entered the vicinity of your garage...
nvr2old
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Something you might be able to do is to wait for the clear that's on it to dry thoroughly and then sand it smooth with 600 grit, but not so far that you go into the colors, especially the black base coat. Then mask the stripes off inside the area that peeled away and spray a little more black base coat over the whole thing re-establishing the outer borders of the panels. Re-pinstripe and re-clear. The striped panels will be a little smaller, but it would at least hide the areas that lifted. Pinstriping tape doesn't like wet coats to begin with. The first few clear coats should be pretty dry, wait for an hour or so, then the last couple go ahead and wet em out a bit more to make sanding and polishing a little easier. This pretty much eliminates using what's left in your can, but you can always spray something else as a test to make sure it hasn't kicked off already. $200 a can sounds really expensive, man alive..I can understand your disappointment in not being able to use every drop of it.
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Flyboy
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THanks for your input Larry, it is greatly appriciated, I was hoping you would make a turn here.
I have already sanded the entire covers all the way down back to base coat/primer, so I will do it all from scratch, taking heed of the good advise that everyone is giving me.
I don't feel confident enough or have the skill to pull off a repair that is going to be good enough.
Hahaha, sorry Larry, didn't mean to give you heart failure, I meant R200 of our monopoly money, about $25 of your Dollars a can.
And relax okes, no flat black happening on my bike, not now, not ever, the only thing flat black on my bike is the tyres.
Just playin' with y'all.
I have already sanded the entire covers all the way down back to base coat/primer, so I will do it all from scratch, taking heed of the good advise that everyone is giving me.
I don't feel confident enough or have the skill to pull off a repair that is going to be good enough.
Hahaha, sorry Larry, didn't mean to give you heart failure, I meant R200 of our monopoly money, about $25 of your Dollars a can.
And relax okes, no flat black happening on my bike, not now, not ever, the only thing flat black on my bike is the tyres.
Just playin' with y'all.
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On the forum here when researching how to paint, I got what I thought was a sound advice - so I followed it - and it was to lay a couple of coats of clear and let it fully dry then wet sand lightly BEFORE laying the graphics - so if anything goes wrong with the transfers or the subsequent coats of clear - you have some "room" to sand back the transfers without damaging the paint job below.
Kinda "jonny come lately" advice in your case but worth considering for the future.
Kinda "jonny come lately" advice in your case but worth considering for the future.
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Flyboy
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Hi Psy
Yeah, I got that one, but I was too smart for that.
Yeah, I got that one, but I was too smart for that.
nvr2old
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Good to hear the $200 was your monopoly money..
..I thought it was unbelievably expensive.. Now that you've taken it as far as you have, you might want to re-prime the covers. Clear coats and base coats that've been sanded into and broken through on, sometimes react very badly to new base coat being applied directly on top. The couple coats of primer should seal that danger off. Let it set for a couple of days. Sorry to hear about the re-do, but believe me when I tell you, it still happens to the best of them. I, also, have to once in awhile take a step or two backwards, (and it never gets any less frustrating) but..it's all in the learning process.
..I thought it was unbelievably expensive.. Now that you've taken it as far as you have, you might want to re-prime the covers. Clear coats and base coats that've been sanded into and broken through on, sometimes react very badly to new base coat being applied directly on top. The couple coats of primer should seal that danger off. Let it set for a couple of days. Sorry to hear about the re-do, but believe me when I tell you, it still happens to the best of them. I, also, have to once in awhile take a step or two backwards, (and it never gets any less frustrating) but..it's all in the learning process.
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Flyboy
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Thanks Larry, yes, I just don't trust myself to pull off a repair the way you guys can, I rather start fresh, I will lay down primer first, to make sure there is no reaction.
I am back to working late nights and Saturdays again, so I am back to one day a week on the bike again, so letting it sit is no problem.
Should I be using any special primer on the plastics, or is the cheap and nasty stuff good enough?
I am back to working late nights and Saturdays again, so I am back to one day a week on the bike again, so letting it sit is no problem.
Should I be using any special primer on the plastics, or is the cheap and nasty stuff good enough?
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Flyboy
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Thanks Larry, I am sure I have seen the brand here, will go look for it and get a few cans.
Quietly lurking and following along Stan..I know the feelingbafter doing a what looks like a mint job and then it just goes south in a heartbeat..thats why i prefer to not mess with the stuff anymore. Good on you to have the composure to not take a hammer to the thing.
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Flyboy
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Hahahaha, thanks Chuck, good to know you are lurking in the background, I follow all your builds, you do quality work, so your input is most welcome and appriciated.
Please believe me, times like these I surely feel like taking a hammer to it, but being a flight instructor teaches you one thing...the patients of a saint.
So, the covers have been sanded back again, we shall lay primer and start again......oh happy days.
Please believe me, times like these I surely feel like taking a hammer to it, but being a flight instructor teaches you one thing...the patients of a saint.
So, the covers have been sanded back again, we shall lay primer and start again......oh happy days.
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Wow, just read through this whole thread like reading a book. You certainly have the patience of a saint Flyboy. And I truly admire your tenacity and DIY whatever the cost attitude. Learning a ton through your project as I'm sure many others are as well so to that, I say thank you! Waiting patiently for the next progress update.
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Oh, and I am going to plagiarize your carb paint job. Very impressive. What did you use to paint them and how do you get the paint to stick to the aluminum?
Sci85
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You have been doing nothing but the most amazing work on this project.
Every aspect has been phenomenal to say the least. Keep up the great work!
Daniel
Every aspect has been phenomenal to say the least. Keep up the great work!
Daniel
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Flyboy
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Thanks for the kind words guys, I really appreciate it, but really, my build is nothing special compared to some of the creations these guys roll out of the garage, but I do try, and I do want it to be something I can be proud of.
Sci, you welcome to plagiarize my carbs, I plagiarized them off Renobruce after all, with his kind permission of course, so the credit for inspiration has to go to him, my artistic skills border on zero, even when I draw a stick man he looks like he has some debilitating disease.
I used cheap and nasty rattlecan paint, not even high heat, so we shall see how it holds up, I baked them in the oven for an hour at 220F to cure and harden the paint, and they are quite tough.
I guess people will argue that the gas will eat the paint, but ten again the trick is to keep the gas inside the carbs, no?
Problem is I could not find the same silver in high heat, it is called Fine Silver and has fine metal flake in it.
Yes I really am trying to keep it as much DIY as I can, even if it means redoing certain things a few times, until I am happy with them.
You know there are too many people out there who look at something and say "wow, I wish I could do that", my aim when this bike is done is to be able to say "look, yes you can" and motivate more folk to roll up their sleeves and dig in with confidence, and build or repair something and feel proud of what they have achieved, no matter how small, hear them ranting and raving about how awesome it felt to do something they never thought of before and how proud they are of it, and enjoy that worm feeling knowing that somewhere I had something to do with it, even if it was just planting the seed.
Sci, you welcome to plagiarize my carbs, I plagiarized them off Renobruce after all, with his kind permission of course, so the credit for inspiration has to go to him, my artistic skills border on zero, even when I draw a stick man he looks like he has some debilitating disease.
I used cheap and nasty rattlecan paint, not even high heat, so we shall see how it holds up, I baked them in the oven for an hour at 220F to cure and harden the paint, and they are quite tough.
I guess people will argue that the gas will eat the paint, but ten again the trick is to keep the gas inside the carbs, no?
Problem is I could not find the same silver in high heat, it is called Fine Silver and has fine metal flake in it.
Yes I really am trying to keep it as much DIY as I can, even if it means redoing certain things a few times, until I am happy with them.
You know there are too many people out there who look at something and say "wow, I wish I could do that", my aim when this bike is done is to be able to say "look, yes you can" and motivate more folk to roll up their sleeves and dig in with confidence, and build or repair something and feel proud of what they have achieved, no matter how small, hear them ranting and raving about how awesome it felt to do something they never thought of before and how proud they are of it, and enjoy that worm feeling knowing that somewhere I had something to do with it, even if it was just planting the seed.
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+1 To everything everyone said above Stan, this thread is one of the ones that's helped me get through some arrrrrgh moments on mine
And DIY... yeah I get it, it's great to know you've done all that work to make this bike what you want it to be, and is so much more satisfying than buying something that someone else has done...
I haven't even finished mine yet and I already have that feeling!
And DIY... yeah I get it, it's great to know you've done all that work to make this bike what you want it to be, and is so much more satisfying than buying something that someone else has done...
I haven't even finished mine yet and I already have that feeling!
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Flyboy
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Ok, got a bit done today, not much, but some nevertheless and I am in no hurry...or so I try to BS myself.
Got the headlight bucket done, it was in sad shape, with a lot of scratches and nicks, so first order of business was to get it smooth
some polyester spot filler and 320grit water paper saw to that.
Laid down another light primer coat, a little more filling and I was happy, layed down final primer and the color.
Just so Larry doesn't think I am cheating.....did the inside too.
In fact the filling and sanding was done last weekend, the paint went on today.
Cleaned up and mounted the starter solenoid, sorry, the bike is filthy, don't know where all the dust comes from.
Had to repair three areas on the tail piece so I can start prepping it, two cut outs that I made to access the bolts that hold the pannier mounts on easier and a hole in the top
Damn, I hate fiberglass work.
Got the seat lock mounted, not sure if I like it plated silver, it may come off again and go black, to match the frame.
Got the headlight bucket done, it was in sad shape, with a lot of scratches and nicks, so first order of business was to get it smooth
some polyester spot filler and 320grit water paper saw to that.
Laid down another light primer coat, a little more filling and I was happy, layed down final primer and the color.
Just so Larry doesn't think I am cheating.....did the inside too.
In fact the filling and sanding was done last weekend, the paint went on today.
Cleaned up and mounted the starter solenoid, sorry, the bike is filthy, don't know where all the dust comes from.
Had to repair three areas on the tail piece so I can start prepping it, two cut outs that I made to access the bolts that hold the pannier mounts on easier and a hole in the top
Damn, I hate fiberglass work.
Got the seat lock mounted, not sure if I like it plated silver, it may come off again and go black, to match the frame.
