I found this commercially avaliable unit which seems to do everything I was looking for including fit on my ED (with a little coaxing).
See install to 83 GS1100ED
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I have been working on a new Rectifier/Regulator design which should solve many of the problems we currently have with the GS charging systems. I'm calling it (for the moment anyway) a
It is a series regulator design which is fundamentally different to almost all of the shunt series regulators out there. Will work for any non alternator design. Last I looked there are about 27 Chinese manufactures making shunt R/R's for very cheap. I'm sure that is where Electro sport and Rick's get theirs from.
It should be a drop in replacement for any OEM or FET style R/R's. I'm planning on making it a 6 wire design with a sense wire like the Honda. I'm going to minimize the current draw on the sense wire, so you should be able to do a direct battery hook up (that is the plan anyway). Will not have the total power capacity of the FET based regulator but should be close to 220(max) Watts or 15 (max) amps at 14.5V. Normal GS is demand is about 13 amps at 14.5 so should satisfy most all needs unless you are planning on a waffle iron on the back of your GS.
Ok so why should you switch to a SSRR from any of the other shunt regulators that are around.
#1 It will NEVER burn up your stator AGAIN. If you have a good stator it will last longer than you will. No insulator break down, no rotor magnet break down. Fixed once and for all no matter how hard you ride.
#2 If you dyno your bike you will likely gain about 1.0 hp at 10K RPM (most 750cc and above bikes). Any 4 cyl bike should see similar improvements. Improvement is related to how much power the stator is capable; smaller bikes usually are a little smaller but this represents a larger percentage of what the smaller cc bike has available.. It could be more but I don't want to go too far out on a limb. I plan to do some testing at Bruce's at the 5th Annual Western States Rally with a working prototype. I should be able to do back to back comparisons. This is especially true if you are using an "increase" output aftermarket stator
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#3 Lower engine operating temperature; no data but but my oil sprayer lowered my ED by about 40 degF if that is any indication.
#4 Better gas mileage ;no data but preliminary estimates you can figure at least 10% increase MPG driving at above 60 mph.
I'm in the process of designing the circuit and the packaging and considering different options for doing a limited production run. So this is to guage interest.
In my mind this is well worth:
$100 shipped with a 1 year no questions asked guarantee**.
**(fine print) Send it back in a flat rate box for $100 paypal refund
Unless I can design it this way, I would not do this. The plan will be to have a working prototype by early July for the rally. Assuming all testing works out, I'll do a limited PCB/CASE pre-production run for some people to try them out for a few months. I'd then be ready to do a moderate size production run (ready for the 2011 riding season) which would be at the above $100 shipped price. I'm trying to guage what moderate size might look like.
SHUNT_vs_SERIES_RR_Compare_Tutorial
See install to 83 GS1100ED
COMPUFIRE_SERIES R/R INSTALL THREAD
SHUNT_vs_SERIES_RR_Compare_Tutorial
*** THIS IS PRELIMINARY MARGET SURVEY ONLY ***
*** IM NOT TAKING ORDERS **** Please just respond/post to this Survey with comments if you like
I have been working on a new Rectifier/Regulator design which should solve many of the problems we currently have with the GS charging systems. I'm calling it (for the moment anyway) a
It is a series regulator design which is fundamentally different to almost all of the shunt series regulators out there. Will work for any non alternator design. Last I looked there are about 27 Chinese manufactures making shunt R/R's for very cheap. I'm sure that is where Electro sport and Rick's get theirs from.
It should be a drop in replacement for any OEM or FET style R/R's. I'm planning on making it a 6 wire design with a sense wire like the Honda. I'm going to minimize the current draw on the sense wire, so you should be able to do a direct battery hook up (that is the plan anyway). Will not have the total power capacity of the FET based regulator but should be close to 220(max) Watts or 15 (max) amps at 14.5V. Normal GS is demand is about 13 amps at 14.5 so should satisfy most all needs unless you are planning on a waffle iron on the back of your GS.
Ok so why should you switch to a SSRR from any of the other shunt regulators that are around.
#1 It will NEVER burn up your stator AGAIN. If you have a good stator it will last longer than you will. No insulator break down, no rotor magnet break down. Fixed once and for all no matter how hard you ride.
#2 If you dyno your bike you will likely gain about 1.0 hp at 10K RPM (most 750cc and above bikes). Any 4 cyl bike should see similar improvements. Improvement is related to how much power the stator is capable; smaller bikes usually are a little smaller but this represents a larger percentage of what the smaller cc bike has available.. It could be more but I don't want to go too far out on a limb. I plan to do some testing at Bruce's at the 5th Annual Western States Rally with a working prototype. I should be able to do back to back comparisons. This is especially true if you are using an "increase" output aftermarket stator
.#3 Lower engine operating temperature; no data but but my oil sprayer lowered my ED by about 40 degF if that is any indication.
#4 Better gas mileage ;no data but preliminary estimates you can figure at least 10% increase MPG driving at above 60 mph.
I'm in the process of designing the circuit and the packaging and considering different options for doing a limited production run. So this is to guage interest.
In my mind this is well worth:
$100 shipped with a 1 year no questions asked guarantee**.
**(fine print) Send it back in a flat rate box for $100 paypal refund
Unless I can design it this way, I would not do this. The plan will be to have a working prototype by early July for the rally. Assuming all testing works out, I'll do a limited PCB/CASE pre-production run for some people to try them out for a few months. I'd then be ready to do a moderate size production run (ready for the 2011 riding season) which would be at the above $100 shipped price. I'm trying to guage what moderate size might look like.
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