Too much Clear Coat?

[GabrielGoes]

I just sprayed my tank, side covers, and tail piece and everything looked real good, i brought em inside the garage to dry overnight, and i noticed a few minutes later they started to turn a milky cloudy white color in certain spots... is this normal? i will take pics in a bout 10 minutes.. but does anyone know what im talking about? im really hoping i can just wetsand it and buff but it looks really disturbing to me...

 

[Sie Motorr?der]

It will likely clear when it cures.
Was it cold or damp outside when you painted the things?

 

[GabrielGoes]

It will likely clear when it cures.
Was it cold or damp outside when you painted the things?

i was prepping all day while it was raining and when it cleared up i started to paint.. so i guess a bit damp...

 

[GabrielGoes]

Fingers Crossed, someone give me some good news, i really hope i didnt screw this up, if i did than its still staying for the summer LOL

 

[oldbutslow]

My guess is either very tiny air bubbles or moisture. In your case, it is probably air bubbles in thick sections. You won't be able to buff those out. A key to spraying paint is to always make many light passes and not just a few heavy ones. ,BK

 

[GabrielGoes]

im just gonna tell people: "what white area? do you see any white area? because i dont see what your talking about "

 

[Sie Motorr?der]

Ahh cold and damp not good.

The tank looks especially like it was cold and someone breathed on it and it clouded up with condensation.

I hope it turns out OK for you. let the parts cure in the conditions indicated by the manufacturer. I have had clouding in clear but not like that just along edges where it got a bit thick.

 

[razooki]

My guess would be that there was too much humidity in the air and it got absorbed after you sprayed.

 

[GabrielGoes]

i am going to do the ol' poster over the hole in the wall trick and just stick something over it or write something on it with paint marker

 

[tkent02]

How humid was it when you sprayed? How cold was it? How thick did you lay the paint on? And what brand and type of paint? I don't know if that's a humidity thing or not, could be.
I have shot paint with good results outdoors in below freezing temps several times, but the paint, the gun and the paintee were warm before the spraying, and I bring the items into the house as soon as it is sprayed. This was in a fairly dry climate but it worked OK.
Can't hurt to try to wet sand it out, if it doesn't work you will ending up sanding for a recoat anyway. If it gets rid of the cloudyness, polish it and see how it looks.

 

[GabrielGoes]

How humid was it when you sprayed? How cold was it? How thick did you lay the paint on? And what brand and type of paint?

i guess pretty humid it rained earlier in the day, its always humid in long island, new york, 55 degrees today, i did thin layers but i did do like 5 thin coats... for the tank i used 2k clearcoat in a can and the rest i used duplicolor automotive clearcoat. the only thing is i have NEVER had success wetsanding.. for some reason after im done with the 2000 grit sanding and i go to polish it, it looks dull even after my attempte polish... when i expect like a ceramic mug kinda look... maybe i sanded it too much? i went from 1k-2k wetsanding anyways do u think i should pull out the heater fan/dish on the curing parts now?

 

[Nessism]

In my experience that hazy appearance will dissipate, although I've never seen such an extreme case. Worst case some will remain but hopefully, not much.

 

[tkent02]

i guess pretty humid it rained earlier in the day, its always humid in long island, new york, 55 degrees today, i did thin layers but i did do like 5 thin coats... for the tank i used 2k clearcoat in a can and the rest i used duplicolor automotive clearcoat. the only thing is i have NEVER had success wetsanding.. for some reason after im done with the 2000 grit sanding and i go to polish it, it looks dull even after sanding when i expect like a ceramic mug kinda look...

So two separate types of paint did the same thing? Wow. Something is seriously wrong...
Wet sanding will always leave a dull finish no matter how fine the paper, but it sets it up for polishing which really brings up the shine.

Did you use power tools for the polishing? Read post #26 on this other thread, by Darkstang:

http://www.thegsresources.com/_forum/showthread.php?t=171289&page=3

 

[FreshStart]

did you use a rattle can clear? ive had this happen to me a couple times. i stopped using the rattle can stuff now. since then never had a problem, i go to an automotive paint shop and get custom cans of clear made filled with the dealer grade stuff.

 

[nvr2old]

You definitely want to spray wet coats. Really thin dry coats are hard to sand and to polish out, but that doesn't seem to be your problem. If it was above 70-80% humidty, you might've sucked the moisture in the air, right into the clear. That's what it looks like to me. Let it sit for a few days and dry. Take one part, say the side cover, sand it starting with 800 grit, 1200, then 2000. Hit it with a buffer, take it out in the natural light and see what it looks like. If it remains cloudy, you'll have to scuff it (and the other parts) with some 600, re-shoot the base coat and re-clear it again..in much lower humidity. Hope that's not necessary, but...

 

[GabrielGoes]

i just looked at the tank and almost all of the cloudyness dissapeared! very sexy looking thing.. its candy apple red i will try to get better pics in the sun.. the pics i took were in the dark with the flash on... on the corners of some of the side covers there are some cloudy drips but that doesnt seem like its gonna be much of a problem.. a lot of stress has been lifted off my shoulders when i saw much of it has dissapeared

 

[tkent02]

That's pretty cool, I'm hoping the rest of it clears up for you.

 

[Steve]

im just gonna tell people: "what white area? do you see any white area? because i dont see what your talking about "

i just looked at the tank and almost all of the cloudyness dissapeared! very sexy looking thing.. its candy apple red i

I was thinking you could aways follow the motto of the engineering group: IF YOU CAN'T FIX IT, FEATURE IT.

Don't complain or apologize for the way it looks, brag about how long it took to perfect that look.

We won't tell.

.

 

[GabrielGoes]

Don't complain or apologize for the way it looks, brag about how long it took to perfect that look

hahaha that brings my spirit up just reading that, and thank you all for your replies i am definitely going to be patient and do it on a nice sunny day next time.. thanks tkent for that post, when it comes time i am going to try out that headlight restoration kit...

edit: btw do you guys think i should ride the bike tommorow? (i really friggin want to) the tank is full of gas so i wont be filling up anytime soon to avoid the disaster that happened to me last time.. i'll polish in about a week or two but if its really hard by tommorow noon do you think its okay to ride it? oh and also do you think i should leave it in the sun tommorow? (supposed to be very sunny) but i wanst sure if this will create cracks and what not.. last time i had nice crack running along the top of my tank i wanst sure where it came from but i do remember leaving it out in the sun the day after..

 

[Nessism]

I wouldn't ride it for at least a week. The seat will rub the paint and damage it.