Canceling TS

[letchworth rider]

Anybody tried the aftermarket self canceling turn signal modules sold by ST2?

 

[slayer61]

No. My '83 still has the OEM and it still works. No need for aftermarket

 

[storm 64]

82 850g has self canceling turn signals. 81 1100e has them...
2022 Z900rs nope. 2016 FJR nope.
That was a big reason I got out of the FJR game.
I think all street motorcycles should have self canceling turn signals as standard.

 

[rphillips]

Strange, ain't it, I've always wondered why early "80's" had them, and working well, then dropped them. Much like the l"reg. cab" Toyota Tacoma, last few yrs. of production the intermittent wipers weren't offered, even as an option. Always wondered who made those decisions and why? I'd guess their profits $$$$$.... An after mkt. ad-on system may be interesting

 

[Grimly]

It's trivial to add a timer into circuit.

 

[Rob S.]

...Always wondered who made those decisions and why? I'd guess their profits $$$$$....

You GUESS $$$? Oh Phil, I always knew you were one of the sharper blades in the drawer! :triumphant: (Just funning; you know me, right?)

It positively VEXES me that modern bikes would be sold without self-cancelling when the technology was perfected so many decades ago.

Money. Lack of money. How much shyte has it caused throughout history?

 

[1978GS750E]

Anybody tried the aftermarket self canceling turn signal modules sold by ST2?

I asked the same question on the FJ09 / Tracer 900 forum and a couple of people have added them, and say they work great!

Most seem really impressed that it works even on lane changes.

 

[Nessism]

Seems like $150. Not cheap, but an okay price.

 

[letchworth rider]

Well, my 81 GS750E did not come with them. I am sick of going down the road with them on. Thanks to the ones that actually answered the question

 

[Eli69]

We all do it. I know I do. I've ridden with many seasoned GS friends and it's funny how often someone leaves the signal on.

One of my favorite things about riding my old skunk is not having to turn off the blinkers.

 

[rphillips]

$150 seems a lot, but I spent nearly that for an LED gear pos. display thing, from Hole Shot, for my B-12, just cause I'd got ust'a them on my earlier Suzukis. If they work, reasonable well,, may be worth the $150... This is first I've heard of them.

 

[Suzukian]

It's become such a reaction for me to turn them off, I guess I'm one of the few that finds them unnecessary. It could be that the light on my Suzuki really lets you know when you have one on.

 

[rphillips]

Yeah, I rarely forget to turn mine off, but really embarrassing when a fellow rider rides up to remind me I forgot.

 

[Rob S.]

Yes, VERY embarrassing. I've chosen to forget all such occurrences.

 

[Gorminrider]

More than embarassing, it's DANGEROUS! Drivers make assumptions-among many examples you can probably imagine: the car waiting for you at the yellow traffic light sees your left blinker on and turns in front of you....

(surviving)Bikers are used to treating other vehicles' signals with some caution but cars?-maybe not so much.

 

[Grimly]

More than embarassing, it's DANGEROUS! Drivers make assumptions-among many examples you can probably imagine: the car waiting for you at the yellow traffic light sees your left blinker on and turns in front of you....

(surviving)Bikers are used to treating other vehicles' signals with some caution but cars?-maybe not so much.

It doesn't even have to be a blinker.
When I first fitted a Windjammer fairing it was wired with constant-on orange marker lights, by design.
Shortly into the first trip, a driver nearly pulled out in front of me, as they thought the orange light they could see was my left blinker. Orange lights as marker lights just aren't a thing here, so I promptly unwired those.

 

[Gorminrider]

that also brings up an interesting sidebar, Grimly-visibility of signals from the side...some of the add ons i see advertised would only be seen from straight ahead let alone from a bit of an angle ,blocked by something.... I had similar on my vetters...now you mention it,the angle of them could make one of them invisible...,. I even think additional orange "marker"/"run" lights are technically illegal for motorcycles here.

The system they used (and the80s Honda Goldwing/Silverwings used the same, I think)seemed like a good idea but later I changed em to divert the runlight circuit to some white "run-lights"much lower down...

I can't remember the Vetter's circuits offhand-as i recall they were in the headlamp circuit?- but if I still had a vetter I might try diverting each dormant windjammer bulb element into their turn signals, to add a little brightness (6watts) to the turn-signals.

 

[Gorminrider]

It's trivial to add a timer into circuit.

I've toyed with the idea too...I'd go with similar to the third ( the darlington setup) from the link below. It usually takes a bit of tinkering with the capacitor size. I don't think you'd need to bother regulating the circuit's voltage, (per a bit of variation between 12 and 14.5) but you'd need to know it might be a factor when you're trying to tweak the time period.


https://www.circuits-diy.com/top-3-s...imer-circuits/

 

[Who Dat?]

Strange, ain't it, I've always wondered why early "80's" had them, and working well, then dropped them.

The first bike I remember with them was the '76 Yamaha XS750. Almost 50 years later, I still have not seen a similar system on a car. Yeah, the car signals turn off after making a turn, but you can signal a lane change in New York, it will still be blinking in Florida, if you haven't run out of blinker fluid.