Do you recommend the Morgan Carbtune Pro?

[KEITH KRAUSE]

I'd like your experience/opinions on the Morgan carbtune Pro. I have an old mercury gauge I've used for decades but I'm interested in the Morgan.
If you own this tool or have seen it used, is it a quality built tool and is it reasonably accurate? Anything you'd like to share about this tool? It's available at the Morgan website (England) for about $97 which they say includes shipping. Did you buy from them without any shipping problems?
I appreciate your help.

 

[Sandy]

I bought one from them several years ago and I find it works great. It came with a nifty storage pouch that holds the gauge, hoses and a few other odds and sods I've added such as short piece of vacuum line for installing and removing the adapters as well as a clear hose for checking float heights. Only down side is that it came with plastic (of some sort) adapters rather than brass ones but so far so good, just be careful with them I guess. It's nice not having to find a safe place to hang it when not being used. Just put back in it case and toss it on the shelf.

 

[Guest]

I think the Morgan Carbtune is the best one out there. I got mine used on ebay. The other common choice is the SyncPro from MotionPro, which I had and sold-- it was garbage. I bought the brass adapters for the Carbtune from Z1 Enterprises.

 

[Baatfam]

Had mine for years, works well. I also started with the MotionPro - SyncPro, and it did work, but not even close to the Carbtune. Just get the brass MotionPro fittings from Z1...

 

[salty_monk]

Yep I have one, works great. No probs with shipping.

 

[Tom R]

Wish I could comment on the performance of the carbtune, but I haven’t had a chance to use it yet. I can say that it seems solid and shipping was prompt considering how far it traveled.

 

[Tom R]

What?s wrong with the mercury gauge? I?d think that?s pretty much the standard.

 

[Charlie G]

I bought one in 2009 direct from the manufacture. As others have stated, works great. The pouch keeps it organised and protected.

 

[Big T]

What’s wrong with the mercury gauge? I’d think that’s pretty much the standard.

Old tech
Morgan and electronic are new tech

 

[Jhurt]

Old tech
Morgan and electronic are new tech

In this case is newer better for measuring simple vacuum?
ive got the mercury set as well, considering the Morgan if it?s a real upgrade...I?ve only ever used mercury

 

[cowboyup3371]

Get the Morgan, you'll love how easy it is to use; just do what Baatfam suggested and get the brass tubes from Z1

 

[Steve]

I'd like your experience/opinions on the Morgan carbtune Pro. I have an old mercury gauge I've used for decades but I'm interested in the Morgan.
If you own this tool or have seen it used, is it a quality built tool and is it reasonably accurate? Anything you'd like to share about this tool? It's available at the Morgan website (England) for about $97 which they say includes shipping. Did you buy from them without any shipping problems?
I appreciate your help.

I have a Morgan Carbtune. I have a Mercury gauge (with SIX columns :encouragement. I have a Motion Pro gauge with the blue fluid. I have a Suzuki tool with the four balls. I think that's about all, except for the analog dials, and I'll pass on those. :-\\\

No problems to speak of with the Carbtune. Most will complain about the plastic fittings (they are supposedly a heat-resistant nylon) and recommend the brass fittings from Z1. Since my Mercury gauge came with aluminum fittings, I use them, and have not had to get the brass ones from Z1. I got my Carbtune used, it did not come with the case, so can't comment on that part. I don't know if the hoses come precut or if you have to cut them yourself. If you have to cut them, make two of them about 6 inches longer than the other two. That helps to reach to carbs on the other side of the bike.

What’s wrong with the mercury gauge? I’d think that’s pretty much the standard.

Yes, Mercury is the standard by which all other gauges are calibrated. However, in a shop environment, it is simply too easy to slip or accidently tip it below horizontal, releasing a very toxic material.


With my list of gauges above, I'll have to tell you, when I am doing a bike in my own shop, I reach for the Mercury gauges. If I am going on the road, I'll grab the Carbtune, it's just SO much easier and safer to transport.

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[earlfor]

I've had mercury gauges and the carbtune for about 18 years. Once I got the carbtune, I never touched the mercury again.
The carbtune is more accurate, and easier to use. you can leave the hoses the length the carbtune comes with. Trimming the hoses makes no difference. It measures vacuum which does not change with hose length. The reading will be the same on a 6" hose or a 20' hose. The hoses are connected to the intake side/carb side, which stays cool, so the fiber filled nylon screw in connectors do not need replacing with metal connectors. I found a drawback to the metal connectors anyhow. They have a "O" ring seal and must be tightened to compress the "O" ring to keep from leaking. The furnished fiber filled connectors seal with only a finger tight screw in pressure. Do not use a wrench on them. Over tightening nylon threads will strip them. Once I have the vacuum hoses connected on a Morgan, I can synch 4 carbs absolutely perfectly in less than 60 seconds. Don't waste your money on anything else. I give it 5 stars. I bought mine direct from England and had it at my door in a week. Best tune up tool I ever bought!








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[Guest]

Just get the brass MotionPro fittings from Z1...

When I bought my Carbtune Pro 2 years ago, it came with brass adapters:



Which is what's shown on their website as well. So I'd say that's no longer a concern, unless you're buying used. No shipping problems, and though I don't remember how long it took to ship, I recall being surprised at how quickly it arrived.

I'm very pleased with mine -- as others have said, it's simple, and works great. I can't comment on accuracy, as I haven't compared it against my single vacuum gauge (but it would be an interesting test). But since we're not concerned about the absolute read, but instead the relative difference between cylinders, it seems accurate enough based on the results I got. I do appreciate the fact that I don't have to calibrate it.

The only minor problem I had was that the included tubing tended to soften with heat, which makes it easy to tear them when removing them from the fitting. But, since it used the same tubing as the vacuum lines on my GS, and I had a bunch extra lying around, it was no big deal for me. I'd suggest letting everything cool down before pulling them off.

 

[bwringer]

Most of the reasons it's the best choice have been covered. Mercury gauges are NLA for very good reasons; that stuff is horribly toxic.

I find the Morgan much easier to use because the readings are a lot more stable; the rods jump around a hell of a lot less than mercury.

 

[bobgroger]

What’s wrong with the mercury gauge? I’d think that’s pretty much the standard.

Mercury is pretty much banned in any application now so not an option unless you can find an old one.
https://www.epa.gov/mercury/environmental-laws-apply-mercury
https://www.wmo.int/pages/prog/www/IMOP/publications/Flyers/Mercury_flyer.pdf
Even though I remember playing with it in school....

 

[niclpnut]

I have purchased 2 morgans.

I think for ease of use the Morgan is far superior to others on the market.

Have synchronized numerous bikes. The 08 fuel injected Bandit 1250 was the last one. Worked very well to even out the throttle bodies. As others have mentioned. Ditch the plastic adapters. One misalignment threading them to the ports and they are garbage.

I've only had one problem with the carbrune.

The first unit I purchased had an issue with hanging slides. I dont know if there was a manufacturing defect or what. But #1and #4 slides would stick and hang open. And would give false readings.

This second unit I had never did it, and always gave me accurate readings.

Nic

 

[KEITH KRAUSE]

What?s wrong with the mercury gauge? I?d think that?s pretty much the standard.

I accidently knocked mine over while working in the garage. Some mercury spilled out on the concrete floor. It looked to me like the mercury had dust on it , so I considered it contaminated and not worth trying to put back in. I have no idea if the amount spilled would compromise the reads so I'm taking it to a hazardous waste site.

 

[KEITH KRAUSE]

Thanks for all the replies! I appreciate it.
The website shows the brass connectors are included. Hope so.
My biggest gripe with mercury is what I guess is hot air or condensation getting into the columns. If the synch takes awhile, too much heat enters the tool and you see air gaps in the mercury, making it difficult to synch correctly. It's happened to me a couple of times over the years. The Carbtune will eliminate that.
Their website says the British pound is weaker right now, so the Carbtune with shipping is about $97. It was about $120 last year when I was considering one.
So I'll go ahead and order it. Thanks for the help, everyone. I appreciate it.

 

[KEITH KRAUSE]

The hoses are connected to the intake side/carb side, which stays cool, so the fiber filled nylon screw in connectors do not need replacing with metal connectors.

I don't get ya, Earl. The hoses (via adapters) should connect to the manifold on the head. I don't know what you mean by connecting them to a "cool" area.








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