1981 gs750 (gs750e) Retro Racer project

[LarsKroghStea]

Was going to ride the bike home this weekend, but things didn't go well.. Neither of the petcocks I bought off of eBay worked. The short one was leaking at the riveted plate in the front. The longer one didn't leak but it didn't flow well enough to keep the right fuel level in the carbs either, and the bike wasn't really rideable. It really was a big dissapointment, because all the lights and all electronics except the magnetic pickup for the speedo now works. The bike ran well with the small plastic gas tank and all seemed well.. but the last trip of the season was a total of 15 yards
But lasted long enough for my brother to take a picture:
2019-09-18_10-45-33 by Lars Krogh-Stea, on Flickr

The project is now extended for another winter, and I've ordered a few new parts. I've ordered an Italian made petcock and a magnetic bolt for the rear brakedisc. The bolt will be used for the magnetic pickup for the speedo. I've had plans earlier to integrate this into the speedo gear at the front axle. The plan now is to place it at the rear wheel and route the cable in a nylon sleeve together with the rear brakeline. The frequency of updates will be lower for a while as I need to focus on my masters thesis the next couple of months.

On the positive side; the m-unit blue and Motoscope mini is awesome!

 

[Buffalo Bill]

Very useful photo, I take side views like this to help me see my suspension set ups.
I can see that if you really want it to improve the handling, you need to raise the rear end 25-35mm with longer shocks.
Fabricate rear sets too, it's EZ to see your feet are too far forward.
Keep on truckin'?

 

[LarsKroghStea]

Very useful photo, I take side views like this to help me see my suspension set ups.
I can see that if you really want it to improve the handling, you need to raise the rear end 25-35mm with longer shocks.
Fabricate rear sets too, it's EZ to see your feet are too far forward.
Keep on truckin'?

Awesome feedback
I don't know as much about this as you do, but I think I'm on the same track. The reason I have the foot that far forward is because I haven't mounted rearsets on this side yet, and I'm putting the bike in neutral from second If you look 5-6 cm behind my heel, you can se the prototype peg I've mounted temporary. This is where the rearset will sit. On the brake side the rearsets I've made is already in place:

2019-08-31_09-15-07 by Lars Krogh-Stea, on Flickr

These give a good angle and position for the knee I think.

I'm also glad you backed up my feeling about the rear sitting too low. I'll do some trips with my gopro mounted to the front of the frame and see how much clearance there is between the front wheel and the exhaust/frame first, as I want to lower the bike in the front first. If the trail/rake doesn't get close to how I want it, I'll raise the rear. Theres maybe no real advantage of lowering in the front as opposed to raising the rear, but I'm also thinking aestethics, and I want to keep the bike low for the good looks (in my view). Is there any disadvantage of lowering the front, as long as the geometry is good?

 

[Buffalo Bill]

Only problem with lowering the forks of a GS is ground clearance.
Raising the rear adds to it.
This is how my 1100G sits with: 35mm rear shock risers and the front end lowered 40mm.
No resets because this is a road bike, comfort is important for longer rides.

 

[LarsKroghStea]

Only problem with lowering the forks of a GS is ground clearance.
Raising the rear adds to it.
This is how my 1100G sits with: 35mm rear shock risers and the front end lowered 40mm.
No resets because this is a road bike, comfort is important for longer rides.

That's a nice compact stance on that bike I have a Kercher 4 into 1 exhaust on mine and the exhaust tubes are more to the senter of the bike which gives more lean angle even if the bike is lower.
Do you have a closeup of how you made the risers for the shocks?

 

[blurred]

Hi, first post on this forum. Love the build and ingenuity on this thing. Definitely following along from here on out.

 

[LarsKroghStea]

The old master pump was both leaking and looking pretty worn out. Was contemeplating a rebuild kit, but decided on a new master in stead. Didnt cost too much and looks nice i think


IMG_20190920_175251 by Lars Krogh-Stea, on Flickr.

 

[LarsKroghStea]

Hi, first post on this forum. Love the build and ingenuity on this thing. Definitely following along from here on out.

Thanks a lot!

 

[LarsKroghStea]

Didn't really have the spare time, but wanted a solution for the leaking petcock. I ordered a better quality petcock, made in Italy. Although the quality was awesome, it didn't look like it would flow nearly enough for 4 carbs. Inside the tall screen there is at thin plastic tube with an ID of roughly 2,5mm. As the float valves are 2mm each, I recon the ID of the petcock tube shuld be at least 4mm for it to not become the bottleneck. Looks nice though, and when I took it apart it seemed very well made. It also has springloaded stop-points, so it clicks nicely into the different positions. I guess it is a replacement petcock for a 50cc Tempo Panther or something.

IMG_20190924_182442 by Lars Krogh-Stea, on Flickr

I did some googling though, and some people with badly tuned or defective 50cc engines did experience around 23mpg. This indicates that even this small petcock would flow enough for the GS. I might try to hook it up and measure the flow per minute or something

 

[LarsKroghStea]

I also took apart the china-petcock, and there's no mystery why it doesn't hold tight. Adding to that, it had become almost impossible to switch between positions because of the expanded rubber. Note that there's no O-ring or even slot for O-ring on the base plate for the "handle".

IMG_20190924_184413 by Lars Krogh-Stea, on Flickr

 

[LarsKroghStea]

As the season came to an end without me getting the bike on the road, I now have a few months to sort out the problems. First off I decided to make some new parts (again). Here's a teaser for what's to come, a rendering of the first part of a new device:


v5_2 by Lars Krogh-Stea, on Flickr

 

[Guest]

As the season came to an end without me getting the bike on the road, I now have a few months to sort out the problems. First off I decided to make some new parts (again). Here's a teaser for what's to come, a rendering of the first part of a new device:


v5_2 by Lars Krogh-Stea, on Flickr

Designing your own petcock?

 

[LarsKroghStea]

Designing your own petcock?

Thought I'd give it a try

 

[Guest]

Thought I'd give it a try

Curious to see the renderings of the other petcock parts. :victorious:

 

[LarsKroghStea]

So.. work has taken a lot of time the last few months, but I'm back Still working on the design for the petcock, but I've also come up with a solution for the pickup for the digital speedometer. I'm using the original gear on the front axle and the original wire. I've then cut the coupling and bearing out of a broken speedo and made a new house for it with a small disc inside. The disc has a hole for the magnet and the lid has a hole for the magnetic pickup. What do you think?


Speedogear_final by Lars Krogh-Stea, on Flickr

 

[LarsKroghStea]

Here are the two parts I printed today. I haven't sanded the edges or removed the tape or anything. Just wanted to see if it fits, and I'm impressed with the opportunities a 3d-printer brings to the table:


IMG_20200301_181733 by Lars Krogh-Stea, on Flickr


IMG_20200301_181846 by Lars Krogh-Stea, on Flickr

 

[LarsKroghStea]

48737553807_0a319a6834_o by Lars Krogh-Stea, on Flickr


2019-09-18_10-45-33 by Lars Krogh-Stea, on Flickr






I'm not that satisfied with the headlight.. It looks too small, and the profile is too deep wich makes it stick out too far. I still have the first headlight i bought lying around. At the time i thought it was too big, but now I think it maybe looks better. Any thoughts?






IMG_20170328_111354 by Lars Krogh-Stea, on Flickr


IMG_20170328_111151 by Lars Krogh-Stea, on Flickr

 

[steve murdoch]

I think the larger one suits the proportions of the bike and it looks better too.
What ever colour paint or even if you go with the bare metal look, consider doing the headlight the same. I like the continuation along the top of the bike..

 

[roeme]

I'd go with your "first" headlight.

To me, the small "choppery" buckets (I think mainly used on the L's?) and deep buckets give a dated look, so I like the "european" (?) buckets best. They're not too deep, while having a nice diameter. I even found some new aftermarket ones which are almost indistinguishable from OEM. I don't have any specific pictures, here are some from my rebuild (click for fullsize):

 

[LarsKroghStea]

Thank you for your opinions

I will go for the large headlight and probably make a little dent at the bottom of the dome so I can position it a little lower.

It's also a great idea to give it the same finish as the rest of the bike. I will keep the "worn/bare metal"-look and add that to the headlight.

I like the worn racing look, and will try to transfer that to the headlight

IMG_20170630_144318 by Lars Krogh-Stea, on Flickr

2019-08-02_10-14-25 by Lars Krogh-Stea, on Flickr